Over the top chili is a new way to make your favorite chili recipe, by creating a large meatloaf or meatball of sorts and smoking it on a wire rack set on top of a Dutch oven or pot. As the meat smokes, the fats drip down into the pot of chili and supposedly add extra flavor. And since so many viewers have requested a video on how to make over the top chili, I decided to give it a try!
You can definitely use this chili preparation method with your favorite chili recipe – just smoke the ground beef “over the top” of the pot with your other ingredients. For this recipe, we tried a no-bean chili for something different, but to be honest, my family prefers our chili with beans (cue the bad comments!). This homemade over the top chili was fantastic, but we were all missing our canned kidney and chili beans.
But our homemade chili seasoning is great! Get the recipe here: https://pelletsandpits.com/homemade-chili-seasoning/
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It is good it is all right over the toop chili so I’ve done a little research kind of watch a couple videos out there and it kind of surprised me how people decided to do it um not really sure about the I’m not really on board okay I’m going to make
This because we’ve been asked several times now even on the flat top King what your thoughts are have you made over thee top chili because we have done different versions of smoking the meat and gring the meat and making chili sauce for hot dogs we’ve done a members
Only chili then we replicated that and did um brisket style chili so the idea of over the toop chili kind of once I see it done I’m just kind of perplexed is that a word I think so I think you used it right did I use it right too
Thank you getting better and the reason is is because if we make a ground beef and we put it into a ball like a meatloaf and then smoke it over top of it I can understand the fat drippings and all that stuff but you’re not maximizing in the smoke flavor so you’re
Almost like hindering yourself so my initial thought was why wouldn’t we just put on a sheet tray wind the ground beef out completely cuz you’re going to smash it up get all that more smoke flavor and then those juices would pile up in it you can just dump all that in
There so it just kind of just kind of weird but we’re going to play along with the system today over the top chili I’m going throw my twist in it and see if it comes out as good as what people say it is I do have hesitation of reservations
But other than that we’re going to have a fun day today I got the Trager it’s on I think it’s on like 225 only because I want to hit that smoke mode for about an hour just to see if we can incorporate a little bit more
Flavor to the meat but let me show you what I got I’m done rambling all right I got brisket trimmings left over from that pastrami that we did the smoked pastrami that’s left over from that I’ve got a uh what is this chuck roast yep I
Got a chuck roast from Les I got some Bano pepper some bell pepper some jalapenos some onion I got my chili blend right here this is homemade if you guys want this exact recipe you can look it up on pellets and pits we will have it there
Available uh and then Tomatoes of choice I don’t know if it’s a really a big deal but we got sauce we got paste we got beef broth um crushed tomatoes diced tomatoes Little W sauce all right let’s get some prep work done and then we’ll start grinding our meat and then we’ll put
Everything on that smoker and see what happens first things first I need to take this truck roast out cut it in manageable pieces for our grinder and then put it in the freezer while we prep our vegetables it’s going to help it go through the a little bit more
Easier and then this brisket right here is already cut up so that’s what I’m going to try to mirror just manageable pieces all the fat and everything that’s where you’re going to get a lot of the flavor and if people don’t have a grinder what meat can they use any
Store-bought uh ground beef chuck roast sirloin I mean whatever ground beef you want to you can go lean you can go fatty you’re the one eating it so you need to make that choice all righty so we have our beef prepped our vegetables prepped I have no
Idea if this is going to matter or not I just thought like I said I’ll would try to incorporate a little bit more flavor if I could so this is the idea while we’re grinding the beef we’re going to add a little bit of the vegetables a
Little bit of the seasoning to the ground mix mixture so that way it smokes maybe incorporates a little bit more flavor honestly I don’t know I’m not going to make it 40 times to try out that was just my thought process we have our meat grinder uh let’s
See it’s not plugged in got to plug it in there we go cooking with gas now so first thing I want to do just guessing here it’s not a big deal it’s all going to end up in the chili anyway and then I’m definitely going to use that whole
Jalapeno that’s why I kept it to the side maybe just a little bit more something like that that looks good right there okay so as this grinds I’m just going to add this a little bit add a time and just let it grind [Applause] together all right I’m going to start working on
That but before I do I just got my Dutch oven right here uh mentioned before like especially on the Santa Maria and other things I like I like to protect the bottom of my pots just helps all that soot and stuff like that not get on
There um so I’m just going to add a little avocado oil for sautéing honestly you’re not really worried about like a traditional sauté right we’re just going to soften the vegetables try to get some smoke flavor on there so all these we going to go on there start wilting down and stuff like
That you’re only at 225° so it’s not like you’re Fly baying and stuff so this is going to go in here woo I need to get that top rack out of there all right on there it goes we’re going to let it warm up as much as we
Can I want to start messing with that meat all right we have roughly 3 lbs of meat you can see that’s all ground up I did the coar gr because I felt like it might just give the chill a little bit more chew um so this is the idea I’m
Just going to add the about half of the seasonings in there I honestly don’t know if it no matter I’m just guessing so roughly half and then Little W sauce one we’re just guessing today it’s a lot of chili and to that we’re just going to bind it
Up good thing about doing like this is once you put your gloves in in there your hands it actually starts creating like a a tackiness to the chili to the beef and it’ll hold together a little bit better warming up that fat smells good I can tell you
That I know what you’re thinking why not add add the vegetables now I don’t know like I said I just put it in the grinder hell who knows if it matters all right so my idea is this here’s my rack to go to the chili it fits almost perfectly
With these little notches this sticks out on the corners a little bit there’s no reason to go a little bit long larger um than your pot you can maybe it shrink a little bit so there’s more meat that’s exposed to the Smoke yeah and that’s why I honestly try to put some the
Vegetables in there too cuz I just felt like you know I don’t know maybe it help it I don’t know if we ever really know you’re going to tell them how you got that small sheet took a regular cookie sheet and then just uh used my little grinder and grind it
Down cut it in half yep that looks good right there and this is for all my bean haters and bean lovers out there today we decided not to use beans so we’ve added more beef if you’re going to use beans you can definitely cut the amount of
Beef that you’re using back a little bit but since we decided to go with more beef no beans today all right on the smoker it goes and then I’m going to hit that smoke mode at 225 and we’re going to do that for an hour all right we’ve hit that hour mark
I’m just going to adjust it about 275 let’s start and get that temperature up there heck weol be warnery today and do 285 in between 3 275 just cuz we can well it’s definitely looking good that’s for sure definitely gets a lot of smoke on
There as I imagine like I said I’m sure those vegetables aren’t even hot enough to sauté so what we’re going to do now is just start adding ingredients so diced tomatoes a little bit of garlic I held the garlic back just in case it did get hot enough I
Didn’t think it would but better safe than sorry tomato sauce tomato paste I’m going to start with half of a can we’ll see what kind of consistency we get we can always add a little bit more later crushed tomatoes can of beef broth and the rest of that chili Seasoning now that everything’s mixed we got our temperature raised I’m going to put back on there we’ll check it in another hour still looking good still looking good just out of curiosity I’m going to check the temperature of this right here I don’t know if it really matters
Considering you’re going to be crumbling it up anyway so about 170° we know that’s uh not cooked enough because we know that medium rare is about 125 so I’m actually just going to keep it at 275 a little bit lower all right it’s been about 3 and 1/2 hours
Total absolute beautiful color I’ve been sneaking a little pieces here and there it’s definitely got some smoke flavor to it take this off let me show you what the inside looks like really quick this is why I held off on that tomato paste cuz I didn’t want to add
Too much cuz I didn’t know how much reduction would be there and I didn’t want it too thick so looking good so now’s the fun part I guess this is why you call it over the toop chili I’m going to use our strainer as a helper cuz then we’ll take this
All right let’s give it a good mix all right for my personal opinion I want a little bit more liquid in there it’s a little thick for me so I’m looking about a cup cup and a half of water moisture you can add beer you can
Add more beef stock I thought it was plenty flavorful enough not to really add a lot more flavor um I don’t think adding water is going to lud it I think it’s pretty stout now listen since this is one of the tricks I can give you I
Know for a fact when you’re cooking on a smoker it takes a long time for this heat to penetrate and to build up it’s not like being on the stove I warmed up my water so I didn’t use cold water so if you’re want to use a beer or stock or
Anything like that I’d highly advise you to warm it up if you’re going to add it in the later stages cuz it’ll cool this down it’ll just take forever to cook so now that we got it there it looks pretty good to me see the consistency we’re
Working with I like that right there we put the Trager up to 325 330 something like that 335 you want to open it for me yep so now we’ll put it on there we’ll cook it another hour and a half something like that and show you like when it’s done all righty in
Full transparency this is what we did about an hour remaining instead of that 2-hour Mark I just took it inside the stove and just finished it I felt like the vegetables we still had a little B more crisp on there than what I wanted my kids got back home from school I
Showed her what we had she’s a chili fiend she loves chili but she did not like the idea of seeing the vegetables she don’t mind eating the vegetables she do like seeing the vegetables so as a dad I picked out quite a few vegetables and put them in here Blended them up now
This was a little bit more chunkier than what we like um I’m trying to keep my opinion it’s open it’s I don’t think it is the world’s greatest chili I think it’s a different chili even she said it’s good it’s just not your chili right I think each family has the same the
Flavor is really good I really like the homemade chili seasoning yeah I do too I think it’s you know we didn’t add beans we’re a beans family we do like beans what did she say she said that’s not chili because it doesn’t have beans boom you guys can argue with my sixth grader
But um but really and truly I think you know chil just come back to like each household you have your own unique way of doing it we’ve had ours I don’t think it’s bad matter of fact I think it’s actually pretty good it’s just uniquely different yeah it is it’s very good it’s
Just different than your normal chili it’s more tomatoey but we let it reduce as long as we could and you can see there’s still vegetables in there I told her she was going to have to deal with it something simple like that then obviously the toppings you know or
However you want to do it so we’ll just do some green onion little shredded cheese we’ve got some tamales that are warming up on the stove as we speak some homemade tamales oh I didn’t know you were doing that it’s nice nice little surprise all out so are we
Tasting yep it’s not like we haven’t been tasting I’ve already been tasting all day hot it’s tomatoey I think the pepper out a sweetness um I think in general it it is tomato heavy like I said we typically don’t go that route a little tomato goes
A long way for us um I would eat in a restaurant and like it I would think I would sit across from you and say I like mine better but that’s a personal preference somebody might eat this and be like this is the best I’ve ever had so it’s extremely close it’s just
It’s so different so I think it’s the difference honestly of like a Smash Burger or a juicy burger people swear about one people swear about the other and they’re both Burgers right they’re both uniquely different they’re both uniquely good so do I think it’s worth
It to go the extra mile and do a over-the-top chili on the smoker not really I mean I really don’t see the benefit I mean I’m not saying it’s not a great chili doing it that way there’s just many other methods I didn’t really feel like this was I think you could
Actually just take the meatloaf smoke it on there and then once it’s done in like 3 hours take it out and put it in your pot inside and be just as happy I don’t think you’ll ever notice a flavored dep difference so hot blowing it for me it is blowing look at the
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Looks good, but that’s a lot of effort for chili . How do you make your chili ?? And I like beans in mine too.thanks for sharing.
I'm a chili purist. Meat, Chilis, broth, seasonings. I love beans, but I've never been a big fan of them in chili for some reason. Have you tried Meat Church's chili powder? I used to make my own, but Matt's blend is straight wizardry. It's so darn good!
Great video as usual! Love these experiments!
The only 2 times I put the meat over the dutch oven like that it was with whole meat. One time a brisket the other time a fat chuck roast. For the brisket I probably used maybe 1/4 of the brisket for the chili, the rest just for brisket. I probably use less tomato as mine never ended up tomato forward. I don't think I'd ever do it just for the chili, but with brisket it works out as I am already smoking the brisket. But still its rare for me(2 times total) as I am lazy and feel like the brisket on its own is enough work that day. Also it is just me, so brisket is rare just due to food waste concerns.
I love over the top chili. But it's got to have beans. Really don't have to put the meat over the top if you don't want the fat in the pot but it'll still give the meat a great smoke flavor.
So why not use your recipe and do the over the top method?? 🤣🤣
We have two places around here that are famous for their 2in pork chops , and smoke thick pork steaks, be great to see your take on them .
Hard to beat a good chili!
That chilli looks good , sure wish I had the ingredients to make that now, it's 16 degrees out and snowing ! And I'm cold . THANK YOU FRANK FROM MONTANA……
This one is a head scratcher. And not being from Texas, I do like some beans in my chili as well. Not bean forward, just some beans added. The other thing I don't care for is straight brisket, I like chuck for chili way better. Good video guys!
If I made chili without beans I’d be headed for divorce 😂
Awesome job Neal, never had chili without beans but definitely would try it. Using that rack was definitely a smart idea! Awesome stuff today! Cheers bro.🍻
Boss, I'd eat that Chili with one foot in a fire. We're on team bean as well, but I think for a nice change of pace, it would be great. Well done as always. 👏
beans!
Used leftover smoked brisket in your chili.
I would agree. I made a smoked over the top chili one time several years ago; wasn’t impressed. And yes, we also like beans in our chili despite living eight months a year in Texas. Chili IS one of those things that WHAT you like depends mostly on WHAT you were raised eating. Pizza is another good that comes to mind that is also so dependent on what you grew up eating.
I think your chili looks fantastic, but I do like your idea of just smoking the meatloaf and adding to the pot on the stove. I would still smoke the veggies first too. Our family also prefers to include beans👍😊
What is the make of the grinder you use?
Amazing as always!!
What knife sharpener do you use to keep your blades so sharp?
Chile looks great. Love your videos. What is the make and model of the meat grinder you used? Can you post a link to it ? Thanks!
Cool vid. For those who don't have a meat grinder, the ol basic food processor works pretty well too. Semi-freeze the relatively cubed meat(s)- 1 or 1/2 inch cubes (and the chopping blade) for 30 minutes or so and then pulse it a bunch of times until it looks like the consistency you like. Don't over process! The clean up is so much easier than a grinder. And yes, beans do belong in chili if you like them! I go with more of the texas red or chili colorado style sauce, and leave tomatoes out completely.
I did a version of this once. The response from my family was about the same as the reaction you got from yours. However, The people who are not part of our family that we shared it with loved the crap out of it and even offered $$ for me to make them a batch of their own. That said, I guess it just depends on who's eating it..
That's a really neat idea with this chili. I'm personally team no beans but I wouldn't fault someone for enjoying it with beans. Pretty sure it was super tasty. So funny because next week I plan on making a bowl of red chili, Texas style using smoked chuck roast. I swear sometimes our ideas overlap. Great video Neal!
Chili with no beans is the way to go. It's hard to beat a good chili. 🌶🥣🤠
Is there anything more boring than "this isn't chili because ___" It's chili if you say it's chili. Let's talk about something else.
Thanks for sharing with us Neil and Amy. I think your daughter nailed it too. It's just not your Chili. To each their own , ain't putting down anybody's Chili. But ruined a meal when a friend hollered out that it wasn't chili because it had beans in it that ruined it for the night. Some folks ain't got NO learning!! Stay safe and keep up your great recipes and the fun you all have making them. We appreciate your channel. Fred.
Thanks!
So in NYC we call those big fat burgers "Pub Burgers", and that is what I grew up with. I absolutely love them, but I also love a great smash burger. There never has to be only one. Your chili is the perfect example. Honestly, I'm sure anything you cook will be excellent. I like this idea, but an old school Dutch oven chili will be great, too! Thanks as always for a great video sir!
I think I did the actual drippings into the pot once. Then I started just doing it like you said and smoked the meat basically a meatloaf and then did the remaining on the stove top. I just like the added smoke flavor plus and excuse to cook outside.
A couple options for over the top chili other than grinding is leave the chuck roast whole and unground pork picnic roast.
Genius! 😘👌
When I make OTT chili I make meatballs instead of a meatloaf to get more smoke flavor to the meat
Ya you could finish inside but I will cook outside over inside all year long.
So its ben 3 days since this video posted…we got a phone call from my in laws that absolutely loved it and preferred this over my chili…hahhaa I was happy and sad…but like we mentioned, this chili was great just something we are not used to…im sure someone and probably a large majority would like it…thats what make the world go around…cheers to all
Man I tried that probably 20 years ago and wasn’t impressed at all. I’ll stick with my venison, elk, or brisket chili. No beans though 😂😂😂
Thank you for the "No Bean" chili……